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Post by ras1980 on Sept 9, 2007 19:14:22 GMT -5
Also, I grew up with people in the US who still thought like this and as peraph said, it's still accepted in many parts of the world. It would not surprise me if it was real. I would whole-heartedly believe that this is real (unfortunately!). Anyone remember hearing about Warren Jeffs? Warren Jeffs was a controversial leader of a fundamentalist Mormon sect that believed quite passionately in the promotion of polygamy among its indoctrinated members. Warren Jeffs took on a despotic role in his particular religious sect, forcing his followers to accept him as an absolute and almost god-like "monarch" who would have complete authority over his followers and arrange marriages between members of his sect, and so forth. Jeffs, who additionally claimed to have a direct bloodline from Jesus Christ and Joseph Smith, was later excommunicated by the LDS Church. Warren Jeffs was also on the FBI's "Most Wanted" list because he actively promoted and arranged "marriages" between extremely young girls and his male followers.
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Post by ras1980 on Sept 9, 2007 19:28:43 GMT -5
I hope that site is a hoax, but considering some the fundie whackjobs out there (for example: polygamists), it wouldn't surprise me at all if it is real. If it is real, I don't see how it could be legal--it amounts to selling human beings. My paternal grandparents had an arranged marriage. Back then (they were married in 1919) it was common for young immigrant men like my grandfather to have their families find them a suitable bride in the old country, who they would then marry and bring back to the United States. As far as I know, these marriages didn't involve any exchange of money or property, and the couple did have a say as to whether or not they wanted to marry each other. Their families simply acted as matchmakers for marriages of convenience. Some of them apparently worked out--my grandparents were married for 50+ years. Sadly, there are polygamists and other obscure Mennonite followers who believe that it is a young girls DUTY to devote her existence to her husband. In addition, the young girl, in some cases, is to become totally subservient to her husband. If the husband wishes to marry another comely young maiden (lol) then the young wife should be merry and keep her pretty mouth shut. Oh, and if your husband wishes for you to bear a multitude of shrieking spawn, then you should happily follow your husbands desires.
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Post by truckerswife on Sept 10, 2007 10:43:35 GMT -5
Apparently no one here watches the show called BIG LOVE On HBO LOL Its all about a family of polygamists in Utah. Its a good show. I don't agree with their way of life. But if it works for them and they are HAPPY why not..Isnt that what its all about in the end is to BE HAPPY?? Of course on the show they rescued a 13 year old Bitch of a liar who Tried to tell everyone she was abused when she wasn't But what else is new with bratty kids? But the show itself has a good story line. We enjoy it, and it makes us HAPPY watching it. Knowing our own lives are not in half as much trouble as theirs is. I would say LOL But I would not want the LOL police after me here.
Anyway And as for the old days of Matchmakers.
Thanks Happy, Now I got that tune stuck in my head. "Matchmaker matchmaker make me a match find me a find catch me a catch" LOL From a classic Movie "Fiddler on the Roof"
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Post by happy2bchildfree on Sept 10, 2007 12:18:19 GMT -5
Apparently no one here watches the show called BIG LOVE On HBO LOL Its all about a family of polygamists in Utah. Its a good show. I don't agree with their way of life. But if it works for them and they are HAPPY why not..Isnt that what its all about in the end is to BE HAPPY?? I haven't seen the show (we don't have HBO) but I feel about this way of life as you do. It isn't for me, but if all parties are ADULTS and choose to live in this arrangement, so be it. Who am I to say it is wrong.
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Post by ana on Sept 10, 2007 12:25:47 GMT -5
I agree as well that consenting adults can chose any lifestyle.
My only problem comes when young girls are indoctorined into this lifestyle before they have come into their own. It's brainwashing. .
And these parents selling off their daughters like livestock is immoral. You don't see young boys married off this way.
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Post by truckerswife on Sept 10, 2007 16:00:54 GMT -5
I agree as well that consenting adults can chose any lifestyle. My only problem comes when young girls are indoctrinated into this lifestyle before they have come into their own. It's brainwashing. . And these parents selling off their daughters like livestock is immoral. You don't see young boys married off this way. Welcome to the boards Ana and YES ITA There is always going to be a double standard when it comes to the sex's That is just how it is...Maybe in my great nephew's lifetime it will change? You never know. But for now, yep ITA it is wrong to sell kids as young as 13. In my opinion no one should marry or start a family any younger then age 21. And I know some people still think thats too young too. But, if is has to be young, I feel 21 is the absolute cut off point. If your old enough to drink, drive, vote, and go to war, then your old enough to get married too. And YES I know all of the above mentioned have different ages associated with each activity. That is because each state has their own set of laws and age brackets. That is something that is out of my control... Damn why can't I be a Deity, just kidding! Anyway, I Just hope the young men in our society now are SMART enough to keep "it" in their pants or at the very least use condoms at all times. Thus helping to stop kids having more kids.
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Post by sage on Sept 13, 2007 21:49:20 GMT -5
Well I left Christianity for a more eclectic approach to spirituality, right now Hinduism is appealing to me because Draupadi (in the Mahabharata) married 5 brothers in a polyadrous marriage. Now THAT'S refreshing.
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Post by felina34 on Sept 16, 2007 6:10:29 GMT -5
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Post by eoraptor on Sept 16, 2007 23:08:53 GMT -5
Follow the link in the word "hoax" on that site and you'll see the full NY Times article.
Though it's interesting that this guy created a hoax site to get people "stirred up" when this kind of thing actually happens.
"“As far as I can tell, in every state but Oregon, parents can marry off their children,” Mr. Ordover said, pointing to this Cornell University Web site which tracks the various state marriage laws. Texas has a particularly ridiculous legal discrepancy, he says. Kids as young as 14 need parental permission to get married – unless, the law says, they have already been married before."
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Post by felina34 on Sept 17, 2007 5:50:52 GMT -5
Well thanks eoraptor! I did not even notice that the word "hoax" was a link! Good that it was a hoax but yeah scary to think that real sites like that could exist. And some fundies would be extreme enough to use them.
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Post by truckerswife on Sept 17, 2007 11:18:17 GMT -5
I too am relieved that this whole topic was nothing but a big fat hoax.. For anyone else that has any doubt about anything that looks odd or suspicious to them on the internet. Here is a wonderful site that I go to often to check out the validity of the source, before I go posting, or e mailing it to other friends. You would be surprised about how much crap is really out there. check this other site out if you all have some time. urbanlegends.about.com/od/internet/a/current_netlore.htmJust type in whatever you have a question about in their search box and I am sure whatever it is, could just possibly show up as a hoax.
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